# CatX - The Ultimate Mother / Child Guide + Updated Jarvee Settings **URL:** \ **Category:** Instagram Marketing\ **Created:** [December 14, 2020, 1:41pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696 "2020-12-14T13:41:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![CatX](https://mpsocial.com/user_avatar/mpsocial.com/catx/32/52813_2.png) [@CatX](https://mpsocial.com/u/CatX)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/22 "2021-04-21T16:59:03Z")
Thank you for the kind comment. Yes we do see our share of child accounts from other companies frequently. Most times as you stated, they do use the same bio and the same display picture which is typically their company logo. In our opinion and you might have read this before but its better to treat child accounts similar to the mother account. Create and grow it as if it is a main account. This involves ensuring the profile for each child account is unique. The use of nested spintax can make generating unique bios extremely fast. If the child accounts are grown with the same respect as a mother account (e.g not being abused by sending mass DM’s or excessive actions) then it will lead to strong child account which will not be flagged / banned by Instagram. Taking the extra hour to create unique profile data can only be beneficial, we do not see any downside to not taking this extra step. ---
**Author:** ![Unique1](https://mpsocial.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/a9a28c/32.png) [@Unique1](https://mpsocial.com/u/Unique1)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/23 "2021-04-21T17:58:17Z")
I am looking to gain around 300 followers per day. How many child accounts would I need to setup and how soon would I see the daily 300 increase if I follow your guide? ---
**Author:** ![Matta28](https://mpsocial.com/user_avatar/mpsocial.com/matta28/32/45669_2.png) [@Matta28](https://mpsocial.com/u/Matta28)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/24 "2021-04-21T18:27:27Z")
200 accounts x 150 follows = 30.000 Followed people total 30.000 followed people x 10% people followed the childs back = 3.000 followers for the childs Of those 3.000 followers, maybe 10% will follow your mother acc, and then you have 300 followers on your mother account ---
**Author:** ![anon95987977](https://mpsocial.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e9bcb4/32.png) [@anon95987977](https://mpsocial.com/u/anon95987977)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/25 "2021-04-21T21:17:25Z")
Thats very much depends on the Main account though. Terrible main account may get 20% of that. Content and social proof drive m/s ---
**Author:** ![Sephiroth](https://mpsocial.com/user_avatar/mpsocial.com/sephiroth/32/55758_2.png) [@Sephiroth](https://mpsocial.com/u/Sephiroth)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 10:54am UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/26 "2021-04-22T10:54:31Z")
CatX thank you a lot. You are a pro and you understand everything so well. Amazing. Thank you very much u are the first one that really give value and also teach me some other ways. Thank you very much. I cant say enough thanks and all the Work just to make this Post amazing. Thank you and all for Free. ---
**Author:** ![jessewolf](https://mpsocial.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/da6949/32.png) [@jessewolf](https://mpsocial.com/u/jessewolf)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/27 "2021-04-22T14:21:21Z")
Can I apply these for now since IG has changed since Dec,2020? ---
**Author:** ![CatX](https://mpsocial.com/user_avatar/mpsocial.com/catx/32/52813_2.png) [@CatX](https://mpsocial.com/u/CatX)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/28 "2021-04-22T14:53:26Z")
> [@Unique1](#): > > I am looking to gain around 300 followers per day. How many child accounts would I need to setup and how soon would I see the daily 300 increase if I follow your guide? The number of followers that can be gained is dependent on multiple factors including the campaign conversion goal, child account setup, campaign strategy, niche and various other factors. The quality of the result will also increase as the mother account engages with its followers more (comment replies, external story engagement, likes), posts quality content and has good account standing order. However, based on our setup / results and in the ecommerce women’s apparel niche as an example, we are able to achieve a constant minimum 300 followers per day with 50-100 child accounts after 1 month of warming up. We have also seen a greater follower increases when implementing other multi layered strategies within the mother / child campaigns. ---
**Author:** ![CatX](https://mpsocial.com/user_avatar/mpsocial.com/catx/32/52813_2.png) [@CatX](https://mpsocial.com/u/CatX)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/29 "2021-04-22T14:54:38Z")
> [@Sephiroth](#): > > CatX thank you a lot. You are a pro and you understand everything so well. Amazing. Thank you very much u are the first one that really give value and also teach me some other ways. > > Thank you very much. I cant say enough thanks and all the Work just to make this Post amazing. Thank you and all for Free. Hi Sephiroth, Thank you for the very kind words. It is much appreciated. I am glad it is helping anyone who is looking into the mother child method. Let us know how your journey goes! ---
**Author:** ![CatX](https://mpsocial.com/user_avatar/mpsocial.com/catx/32/52813_2.png) [@CatX](https://mpsocial.com/u/CatX)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/30 "2021-04-22T14:55:51Z")
> [@jessewolf](#): > > Can I apply these for now since IG has changed since Dec,2020? Hi Jessewolf, Thank you for your question. Yes, the guide is still applicable and was written for 2021. We have not faced any issues and the core concept of this guide is to make sure the campaign is setup in the correct manner from the start and therefore it alleviates any chances of Instagram bans or action blocks. With a clean setup, clean 4G proxies and taking the time at the beginning, this method should remain working. ---
**Author:** ![jessewolf](https://mpsocial.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/da6949/32.png) [@jessewolf](https://mpsocial.com/u/jessewolf)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/31 "2021-04-22T16:16:25Z")
Thank you @CatX, could you please check your inbox. ---
**Author:** ![Matta28](https://mpsocial.com/user_avatar/mpsocial.com/matta28/32/45669_2.png) [@Matta28](https://mpsocial.com/u/Matta28)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/33 "2021-04-22T20:32:36Z")
Ofc it depends on many things tho ---
**Author:** ![CatX](https://mpsocial.com/user_avatar/mpsocial.com/catx/32/52813_2.png) [@CatX](https://mpsocial.com/u/CatX)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/34 "2021-04-22T20:39:55Z")
> [@RustyBread](#): > > (post withdrawn by author, will be automatically deleted in 48 hours unless flagged) Scraping externally and then importing has many benefits. We have a few Jarvee licenses dedicated to just scraping data for the child accounts. Not only does this reduce / save resource from your main Jarvee instance being occupied, it also allows greater control in filtering users by analysing source lists and achieving a better follow back performance. If you have scrapper accounts mindlessly sending information to your child accounts by using the “follow the followers of specific users” option, it will be harder to analyse which source is performing better. By using external filtered scrapped lists, you have the ability to judge source performance and make effective changes much quicker if required without wasting time or the number actions performed which do not result in follow backs or your campaign goal by the child accounts. With Instagram limiting actions per account, it is more important to make sure each action performed whether follow, like, DM is effective and not wasted without a result. Scraping externally also allows retargetting lists, create specific strategies and many more advantages. I have tried to keep it brief and hope it answered your question. ---
**Author:** ![LongNecksThreeHorns](https://mpsocial.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/58f4c7/32.png) [@LongNecksThreeHorns](https://mpsocial.com/u/LongNecksThreeHorns)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/35 "2021-04-22T22:04:57Z")
Has anyone here worked with CatX and can you recommend their service? ---
**Author:** ![jessewolf](https://mpsocial.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/da6949/32.png) [@jessewolf](https://mpsocial.com/u/jessewolf)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 9:47am UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/36 "2021-04-23T09:47:24Z")
> [@CatX](#): > > Having rotating IP addresses allows you to connect a larger amount of Instagram accounts per proxy without leaving a notable footprint. The safest setting that we have found to work with great success in the long term is to connect a maximum of 15 child accounts per 4G proxy. We can say in the past 3 years that we have not come across any issues relating to our proxy settings. > > We have tested connecting 30 child accounts per 4G proxy with a shortened IP rotating interval of 15 – 30mins however we have logged errors whilst IPs were being changed. As the IP is being changed more often per hour due to the higher number of child accounts per proxy, that split second of disconnect while the 4G proxy reconnects to the network to provide a new IP has resulted in a higher number of action failures on Jarvee such as sending a DM. If running 1,000 accounts, the number of failures every 15mins can add up and have an effect on your campaign goal e.g. increasing followers. The maximum of 15 child accounts per 4G proxy, so what a IP rotating interval is? If there are 15 accounts per a proxy, this means that several accounts do many actions at a certain time. E.g. from 8AM - 8:30AM, the IP is the same since we don’t rotate this time. Account 1 does story view, follow users, send a DM message. Account 2 does the same action as account 1. Account 3 does the same… Account 3 does the same … … Account 10 does the same, view stories, follow users, send a DM. Will this make accounts get blocked, or PV, or Compromised,…since there are several accounts do many actions at the same time on the same IP address? Thanks, ---
**Author:** ![jessewolf](https://mpsocial.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/da6949/32.png) [@jessewolf](https://mpsocial.com/u/jessewolf)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 10:06am UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/37 "2021-04-23T10:06:38Z")
> [@CatX](#): > > **Scraper IP’s: £200.00 ($270.00) for 166 proxies**. > Each proxy can be used with 3 scraper accounts on timed intervals. Whilst some scraper accounts are valid and active, others should be in night mode to avoid blocks / verification. The proxies used for scrapers are data center proxies? Is this right? ---
**Author:** ![CatX](https://mpsocial.com/user_avatar/mpsocial.com/catx/32/52813_2.png) [@CatX](https://mpsocial.com/u/CatX)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 10:55am UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/38 "2021-04-23T10:55:45Z")
Hi Jessewolf, We recommend 15 child accounts per 4G Proxy at a rotating interval of 30 minutes. When using 4G mobile proxies, it is less likely for accounts to be blocked even if multiple Instagram accounts are concurrently performing actions. The 4G proxy allows this method to work and to be able to perform multiple actions through various accounts at the same time. At any given time, a normal user who is operating their Instagram account via their phone is also sharing their 4G IP address with others in the area with rotation. For this reason Instagram is less likely to place blocks as this is natural everyday Instagram usage. If you were to be using datacenter proxies (we do not recommend at all), then yes it is more likely to face issues when running multiple accounts / actions together. We do not recommend datacenter proxies for child accounts and the natural way for IG automation is to use 4G mobile proxies. > [@jessewolf](#): > > > [@CatX](#): > > > > **Scraper IP’s: £200.00 ($270.00) for 166 proxies**. > > Each proxy can be used with 3 scraper accounts on timed intervals. Whilst some scraper accounts are valid and active, others should be in night mode to avoid blocks / verification. > > The proxies used for scrapers are data center proxies? Is this right? Correct, for scraping data it is better to use datacenter proxies. ---
**Author:** ![IGsocialize](https://mpsocial.com/user_avatar/mpsocial.com/igsocialize/32/33487_2.png) [@IGsocialize](https://mpsocial.com/u/IGsocialize)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 11:49am UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/39 "2021-04-23T11:49:15Z")
> [@CatX](#): > > We have a few Jarvee licenses dedicated to just scraping data for the child accounts. Thanks for sharing your experience. Just to clarify..scrapers don’t count as accounts in Jarvee (after 70 accounts) ![image](https://mpsocial.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/a/da3aeb7ac14a7411ae3431178fe657d7fefdf88f.png) ---
**Author:** ![CatX](https://mpsocial.com/user_avatar/mpsocial.com/catx/32/52813_2.png) [@CatX](https://mpsocial.com/u/CatX)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/40 "2021-04-25T21:35:52Z")
> [@IGsocialize](#): > > > [@CatX](#): > > > > We have a few Jarvee licenses dedicated to just scraping data for the child accounts. > > Thanks for sharing your experience. > Just to clarify..scrapers don’t count as accounts in Jarvee (after 70 accounts) > > ![image](https://mpsocial.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/a/da3aeb7ac14a7411ae3431178fe657d7fefdf88f.png) Yes, if you have a license for a larger number of accounts, scrapper accounts are not counted towards your account limit. You can contact Jarvee support and they have options for 500+ accounts licenses, however they recommend a maximum of 250 accounts per instance. If you are constantly running thousands of scrappers 247, it is better to run on a separate dedicated instance of Jarvee instead running on the same license with your child accounts to avoid maximum thread usage. Jarvee although an amazing software, can result in performance issues if pushed too hard on one license. ---
**Author:** ![Unique1](https://mpsocial.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/a9a28c/32.png) [@Unique1](https://mpsocial.com/u/Unique1)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/41 "2021-04-26T23:06:44Z")
Going to pick your brains on hashtags 1. Do you use hashtags on your child accounts? 2. How many hashtags per photo? 3. How do you know what hashtags to use or to avoid? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Brisk0](https://mpsocial.com/user_avatar/mpsocial.com/brisk0/32/36398_2.png) [@Brisk0](https://mpsocial.com/u/Brisk0)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 11:41am UTC](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696/42 "2021-04-27T11:41:21Z")
Quite a detailed guide, many points can be used for regular account growth. Curious, how much data do you spend per sim/15 accounts? [Previous page](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696.md?page=1) [Next page](https://mpsocial.com/t/catx-the-ultimate-mother-child-guide-updated-jarvee-settings/121696.md?page=3)