Previously I used to use proxies, but after switching to 4G I realised that toggling airplane mode gives me a new IP everytime. But many times I find when I try to add a new account on a dynamically generated 4G IP, Instagram asks for PV which means that instagram doesn’t like this new IP but even today by using proxy everything works fine which means instagram likes the proxy IP but not the dynamically generated 4G IP. I have tested toggling airplane mode several times a day and it indeed gives a new IP. Is there anything else that I am missing which makes the dynamically generated 4G IP bad or detectable ?
Cookies, User Agent, App ID, same password, same private email domain, DNS, GPS data,… etc
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Is not exactly that IG doesn’t like it, a PV can be triggered just by using a new device. It also depends on how much trust score the account has.
In any case one thing that helps for avoiding further verification is using same location as client IP, at least for the initial login (you can use a VPN tool for that).
Yeah correct, there are no exact rules when it comes to this matter. Anything can trigger verification request
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Boris These are different devices and different IP. Sorry if I was not clear.
I am talking about creating a new profile with email . Sorry if I was not clear. My argument is on a newly generated IP and new device, creating an account with email should not ask for PV. It should be same as using proxy.
But I am getting a sense that somehow it can detect all these IPs are from same 4G connection.
By new device, what you mean exactly?
You reset your device ID with a rooted phone or app? bec is far more complex than that…
A real new android phone on which instagram app is being installed for the first time. No emulator no ID changer.
To conduct this experiment I used dozens of new phones.
@Noirorion is right you can’t solely blame it on IP only. Many things can trigger PV.
I give you a scenario.
Any given iP address can be related to a source. Now IP addresses assigned are built up in blocks of subnet/scopes which basically is a range of IP addresses.
When you connect to 4G data and you are assigned an IP address, that single IP address is one of many from within a scope/subnet. Now blacklisting a scope is not that hard for IG. Actually that is what they do with DC proxies. They blacklist entire subnets. But they never solely block an entire subnet belonging to a gsm provider just like that. That would affect to many users. What they can do is blocking that subnet in combination of other things. Let’s say IP scope and your Device ID. That will hit you, since device ID is unique. Or even to make it more specific, if you continuesly use a certain e-mail provider, the algo can say this IP scope in combination with this device ID and this e-mail provider. Now I am not saying this is exactly what they do, but they can easily use a similar technique.
Now when you say by using a proxy it solves your problem. Then you have your answere. Your device ID in combination with the IP from the IP scope you are assigned from the 4g connection you have, is triggering the PV. When you change one of the parameters, in this case to a proxy, which is assigning you an IP from another subnet, which the IG algo was sensitive towards, solves the PV triggering issue.
Hope this made sense.
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Yes it does, my guesses are around the same, I think people in my locality using the same 4G telecom get IPs from same subnet. Since I have created hundreds of IG accounts I may have decreased the subnet’s trust score and anyone in my locality is likely to face PV due to me.
The concluding part of this experiment would be to ask someone in my locality to create an IG account using email on their own 4G connection(provided he has not already created 5 on his device) . I have to read but more on how 4G allocates IP. My hunch is maybe if I move to a different part of the city accessing different cell tower I might receive IPs from different subnet. These two experiments I would try to do going forward whenever I get a chance
@Phelan_Rashida Others may be able to create accounts, since their device IDs are not “flagged”.
I remember back in the days there was a limit of 5 account creations per device. Must admit I do not know if that still applies after all these chabges that has been implementet by IG.
But yes it is worth a try. Keep us update.
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I think you missed the above discussion altogether. Dude these are brand new devices which I bought just before creating accounts, so there’s no scope for deviceid being flagged. Only reason I suspect is the subnet of any new IP coming from this cell tower is flagged.
if the area has only a few towers and small customer base, going to airplane mode and back on mobile IP does not always assign a new IP. Especially if the towers are busy at the moment.
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It’s funny the first input I create in your thread, you totally sound like agreeing to.
Then when you don’t agree with my second suggestion, then I missed the discussion altogether? Sounds promising.
I believe you missed the most important thing here. Both @Noirorion and I started of saying that many things can trigger the PV.
So what you got new devices? How many accounts have you created on these new devices already? Since you claim you are hitting PVs, that means you already used these devices to create accounts with. So they are not fresh out of the box anymore. Did you ever take your time to note down the IP addresses for each and every account you created? Maybe you have been using the same E-mail provider to create the accounts with. Specifically using gmail in bulk I know from experience hits you with PVs EVEN ON NEW DEVICES.
So what I meant with this statemenet
Was that in this situation do not rely on what others can. You gotta find out why yours isn’t working. You said you were gonna test in other areas, which I totally agreed with you. Since it sounds like you are having an IP issue.
No one can give you an exact list of things that may trigger PVs.
When your thread lacks metadata, people can only try guessing to help you.
From you last answer, it seems like you got your attitude/ignorant mode on.
That is gonna make it hard for you to get any help in here on the long run.
Good luck
Peace 
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They’re all being created from the same subnet if you’re just toggling airplane mode off and on. That’s not an ideal solution for bulk creation… only really good for a handful or 2 of accounts.
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Probably yes. Any tool that you suggest to extract out the subnet? I am using a service to convert IP address to zip code, I keep toggling until I get a new zip code not sure if that would have helped.
No clue, might want to chat with one of the guys who are selling 4g proxies… they’re usually the most knowledgeable in that area.
I would like to know as well, please keep us updated.
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