Own number I mean in general numbers that only you have access to. There are services which give you a guarantee for that. For beginner it is usually cheaper to have own SIMs but might depend on where you live. In Europe the areas behind central station have nice shops for that…
are u running settings right after pv? This is a big flag.
Nope. I rest it for a couple days, log in on the 3rd day with no actions, 4 day with viewing stories, 5th day start unfollowing till no more, once unfollow phase is done, then start following again with adjusted settings than before. So it usually works out a full week before following again after a PV
sounds like ur doing everything correctly its just that the account sucks.
The 5 PVs in 2 weeks is a personal preference, not a general rule for managing accounts…and that’s more for spam & just started accounts. Accounts I’ve cultivated for months I’m usually far more forgiving although PVs on those are exceptionally rare unless I royally screw something up.
Having done dozens of mistakes, I can guarantee that there is no such thing as “too many PVs”.
I’ve experienced daily PVs on my business’ main account for 2 weeks straight and 4 times/week on some other test accounts. 2 months after that this same thing has happened 1 more times and all my accounts are safe and sound.
My main point is that I have not lost any account so far (and hopefully I never do) even when I was experiencing PVs for 14 days straight.
My new formula for getting over PVs:
Day 1: get the first PV
Day 2: if the PVs stop then everything is great, if not, keep on doing what you did
Day 3: if you get PV again, verify your account and stay 100% inactive for 48 hours
Day 5: IG will hopefully be as generous with you as it is with me.
within 2 weeks IG will lift the shadowban from your account and everything will be as planned.
Hope this helps.
what proxies are you using rn?
Based on my most recent experience with account creation and PVs, I have also come to the same conclusion.
Ok si I guess pv at acc creation is already a pretty bad sign… What about IG’s suggestion to add your number but you don’t have to? That is normal right? Sometimes I don’t even get that, but sometimes I do… I don’t think that counts as a pv in terms of trustscore of the acc does it?
Yeah that is perfectly normal and even appears in accounts created without any drama.
Ok dope, thank you, I guess the account creation process is going fairly well then
Yeah, honestly I don’t want to be pv’ing every acc every 2-3 days either, especially once I start scaling… Yeah I am talking about child accs here, the mains one has to kepp them safe obviously, thanks for your reply
As with everything about IG marketing, what you should and/or shouldn’t do is arbitrary.
Depending on your campaign goals, size, etc.
E.g.:
- If I’m running a CPA campaign, and I am warming up 1,000 accounts, during the first 2 weeks, anything that gets a PV will be deleted. No discussions.
- If I’m running slave accounts for clients who have been waiting for quite a while now, I’ll do everything I can to make sure all the accounts get through the warm-up period. That means PVs, recoveries, EVs, etc.
General idea, though…
First, you’d have to ask yourself, why is an account getting a PV?
These are just theories, mind you, as with everything else you can find here.
Your account got a PV status because of one or more of the following reasons:
1.) You are going too fast on your actions and IG wants to know if you’re a bot or not
2.) You are running on an IP that’s been flagged as blacklisted (from one of the spam BL houses)
3.) Your account was made from an IP that’s now been flagged by IG
4.) Your account got reported as spam
The most common is #1. Most marketers I’ve seen here think they know what they’re doing because they copied somebody else’s settings who also claimed they know what they’re doing (obviously not).
To avoid this, I would recommend experimenting to have your very own settings. Find out what is too much actions per day and what is too low. Be creative. (TIP: A solid warmup period lasts 3-4 weeks to reach 800 follow per day)
#2 is easy to avoid as well. Purchase a few proxies from a certain provider. Check if any of them is blacklisted on at least 3-4 blacklist houses. If they are, avoid. If they aren’t, then you’re in good hands (I hope, this is just the way I’ve done things).
#3 Check the creation IP (most account sellers provide this) if it’s flagged as well. If they are, cross your fingers and go slow if you can. If not, then cherish the days you have the accounts.
#4 Better content, better bio copywriting, better spun content on your DMs, etc. Try to make your account as human-looking as possible (because we all know we are bots )
I know, I’m missing the point, getting there…
How much PV is normal and when to burn accounts? (CPA Version)
Again, we’d have to go back to WHY accounts get PVs. I use the reasons I listed down above as my checklist. If you checked everything and all’s good, then it’s time to weigh your options.
For example, I’m running a few CPA accounts. #4 is the most common reason I get PVs and it’s too much of a headache to tackle so I came to accept that I WILL PV EVERYDAY.
Let’s say, 1000 accounts.
IF: The accounts are only a few days old, I don’t PV them anymore. If they get PV, I burn. It’s just too much work for accounts that has a high possibility of getting banned.
IF: The accounts lasted 2 weeks, they are semi-strong already and are doing 400 follows per day max. Even if they get 100 PVs per day per account, I WILL PV.
So how much PV is normal? For my CPA accounts – I DON’T GIVE A SHIT. Because the currency of CPA is time. A CPA account that survived for a month with my settings will outweigh 100 accounts that haven’t been warmed yet.
How much PV is normal and when to burn accounts? (Growth Version)
I have a couple of slaves as well for some stores I’ve set up.
Here’s the thing and you may not share the same mindset as I have…
For me, each account is GOLD. Especially nowadays.
It is very very hard to create accounts nowadays. For me, anyways. So each account is an asset I can’t afford to lose. Whether they’re new ones or warmed up ones. I’ve even set up a team that does recoveries alone so even the banned accounts can be salvaged.
The normal PV is once per day. Yep, I don’t care what the goo-roos say, once per day is the normal amount. More than that, and there’s something wrong (I will go back to the checklist). Less than that means your stars are aligned and you’re doing things in an awesome way. Keep it up!
This is true most especially for your fully-warmed accounts (which I’m assuming is doing not less than 500 actions per day).
For fully-warmed accounts, I do 1,000 follows per day and unfollow is running 24 hours. Not to mention the DMs being sent. No matter where you look, that is an abnormally high amount. Because a normal person doesn’t do more than 500 per day. Heck, it’ll even be hard to reach 300 follows per day for a mortal (Jarvee is GOD).
So if you get 1 PV per day per account, don’t be surprised. What to do? Suck it up and do it. Or don’t do it and burn the account. But if you do burn them, please send me a message and I’ll take all your burned accounts.
On the matter of PVs
I did my best not to include this but I thought it’s a disservice if I don’t say a few things. Thing is, I own SpeedyVerify and people might think this is an advertisement. Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t. I just want to tackle the elephant in the room.
First of all, a verification service IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. Whether it’s mine or SMSPVA, or GETSMSCODE, or whatever service there is in there.
IF you have access to local SIMs, use them. I’m begging you, buy them, use them, and PV your accounts yourself. Don’t believe the next door joe telling you you need SIMs from the US or the UK, or the Vatican, etc. Any phone number will work as long as they are from real SIM cards (virtual numbers are a little iffy).
IF you don’t have access to SIMs (some countries have limitations), consider using cheaper providers (Ours is a little bit more expensive). SMSPVA still works like magic for some people while others have reported some horror stories. I’d say, try them and you be the judge. OR buy from those that are selling SIM cards here. They still work wonders.
Do you have to have your own SIM cards? That depends on the size of your campaign.
If you’re running 1-100+ accounts, I’d say get your own SIM cards and do the PVs yourself. It’s the cheaper option and not very much time consuming yet.
The only time a service makes sense is when you’re running a lot of accounts (500 to thousands range). Believe me, PVing that much per day will drain you so much all you’ll be able to do in a day is do PVs.
Is there a difference between using your own SIMs and a service? There’s none. Newbies will say yes, but there really isn’t. I’ve got clients who have their own SIM cards, clients who still buy their own SIM cards, heck, I even have clients who are selling SIM cards (here and on other forums).
Again, the only difference is the level which you’re at. If PVing accounts is stopping you from doing your more important tasks, then a service makes sense. There’s no one better than the other.
wow, just wow, a complete pv’s guide by the pv god himself… Thank you so much for this
Everyone should bookmark this post! Heck, even write it on a piece of paper!!!
Normally after a post I would keep asking question after question lol, but your post is just…
I still do have one question: Does it matter if you pv all the accounts at the same time? Because I am getting pvs in waves, meaning 7-8 accounts get pvs at the same time. I always wait 10-20 minutes before verifying the next one, do I have to do so? Or doesn’t it even matter, just verify all of them at the same time?
Again, Thank you so much!!
The way you’re doing PVs is super safe so I’d say keep at it. Normally though, I just PV one after another.
There should be something in the settings though that lets you delay each account from validation. I think I’ve got that set at 10-20 seconds. So if an account is still initializing, no other account will do the same.
Yeah, once I scale it will be pretty hard to remain that safe lol, too much time…
Jarvee offers that, but right now I am on a budget so I am using gmt2, they don’t have that option
You’re missing out on a lot man.
Haha I know I also use Jarvee, but for childs I am using gmt2… Will obviously switch to Jarvee once I have the budget
Which places do you normally check for an IP to be blacklisted?
Stress-Free & Time Saving strategy that im currently using as well