The day has come when Iām looking at this thread. Was hoping it wouldnāt. 8 Pvās in on some accounts, time to learn what to do when the shit hits the fan.
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Good luck 
If you follow it properly, you can unban endless accounts.
Yea, but good luck explaining it to clients 
or convincing them to continue working with you
Iāve never ever had any kind of issues with client accounts. No PVs no nothing. Are you using mobile proxies?
For the most part from what I gathered the banning is an issue mainly in spam accounts, slave accounts, cpa accounts, and in general - accounts that havenāt been created right and have only ever been running on automation.
I never had these issues either. But since 2 weeks, most clients accounts are on a PV loop. See my thread here, I detail it at lengthā¦ https://mpsocial.com/t/pv-phone-verification-loop-is-that-a-thing-now-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end
But in short, I wouldnāt surprised if ban is the next step.
I also read many threads saying no one got banned for f/uf in the past. But in the last 1-2 weeks at least 2 people said they got client accounts banned. It hurts to speak it, but letās face the reality.
Wow this is brutal.
Sorry to hear that.
Iām wondering - are the clients doing anything that might trigger it? Are then in an inappropriate niche or are they possibly posting content that doesnāt belong to them?
And what proxies are you using?
Never said I was uglyā¦but thanks 
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Niches - clothing brands/cafes/restaurants/personal brand
Content - all unique, never shared before anywhere (incl. captions)
Hashtags - I manually selected good ones
Proxies - important ones on mobile 4g, not so important on Datacenter.
I mean, the common fixes we mostly triedā¦
In my experience, a disabling is usually the result of the client doing something stupid. Only one I ever had issues with thought itād be a good idea to buy 10,000 followers and pad his posts with a few thousand likes each (all 400 of them). So I can usually pass the blame to their actions as it most likely IS their actions and not mine (since you truly donāt know what caused the disabling, you can only guess)
In the case of my client above, they knew they messed up and I walked them through resolving it. I became their hero and they now sing my praises all the timeā¦they also stopped messing with their account on me
True, I mean I have not had that yet. But my clients are the type who have no idea whatās up with IG. They just check it occasionally and see how its doing.
Are they removing the PV number after doing the verification? (or are you?)
I did for the first 2 (also used Chinese numbersā¦ Bad move). Then kept numbers in from getsmscode, same country - UK after verifying and have not been removing for about a week.
My personal accounts - kept the numbers for the last 4-5 PVās.
I also bought 100 UK sim cards, but taking forever to arriveā¦ Will use 1 number per account as soon as its here.
I would put them all on mobile proxies. Not worth the risk.
I would DEFINITELY encourage them to read through the terms and conditions. All of my clients have signed off that they have read the terms and conditions, they are aware of the risks, and THEY are the ones taking the risk, not me.
And then I encourage them that I am doing all of this as safe as anyone and much safer than any company like Social Bloom or anything.
Chinese numbers for clients is definitely a huge risk. It taints them as well. Using both datacenter proxies and hidemynumbers are huge red flags. Itās cool to risk it for slaves and spam but I wouldnāt even do that. Real numbers for all of my hundreds of accounts, even the ones I donāt care about as much.
What are your settings like?
I went from aggressive to very moderate as this started going on. For months I had no issues or a single PV, so assumed settings were good. Again, a mistake.
1st. is Follow, 2nd is Like, 3rd is Unfollow
Current settings (No like) 1st is follow, 2nd is unfollow
Finally, hereās a graph of month to 13th with daily actions and PVās for 12 accounts. Between 13-16(today) have been mostly idle & resting or below 50 actions on some testing accounts. Only started keeping this one after 3rd of April.
WARNING: Information overload
Can you tell me how many of the actions theyāre doing a day?
You donāt limit your actions per hour in addition to day? Looking at your settings you typically will fall into more safe limits but it will be RNG based. Your current like after follow settings (assuming you donāt use the like tool, engagement group or LE as well) can have an account do over 100 likes/hour (based on the fact you can do up to about 60 follows hour and up to 2 likes per follow.
If I was to do anything I would
a) Turn liking off completely on the PV looping accounts
b) Make sure likes are capped to 20-40/hr per client (based on age and proxy quality)ā¦this would be across all liking sources you use
Those settings are SUPER aggressive. But still please provide how much of each action a day you are taking. As @tacos said, your likes are REALLY adding up.
You donāt rest them either? I rest all of my accounts at least 6-8 hours every nightā¦
To be honest with these settings, the hidemynumbers, and datacenter proxies, you are in deep water. Those accounts are going to be extremly flagged. Iām really sorry to say because itās scary to hear. But Iām not surprised youāre dealing with PV at all.
Follow 350 a day and unfollow 350 a day with 8 hours rest. Thatās all I do. You cannot go above 60 actions a day.
I would give these accounts a massive rest.
And what proxy providers are youu using?h
Sorry, I wasnāt clear at explaining. I switched off like after follow since 1-2nd of April. Just enabled it for the screenshot (which I took a while ago) to show my previous working settings for months without a single PV. And yes, that was agressive. I copied the settings from a friend who had 100+ of clients.
Currently
- I do not use follow per hour setting to cap it, but I assign settings to average 17 per hour with my current settings set up.
- Not doing any likes
- Follow in the morning 8-3pm
- Unfollow in the evening 5-11pm
- Sleep 11-8am
I made changes around 3-4th of April. If you look at the graphs, most accounts stayed below 100 daily actions with some anomalies (where I did not change settings). Pushed 2 accounts for test to see what will happen.
But 2 days, mostly stopped now.
As for LE - I do not participate with accounts. I only receive likes on those accounts. I have like feeders to feed.
Depending on the age of the client I do closer to 550 follows and 650 unfollows. But I donāt do any DMs,comments or likes on client accounts. I also use night mode for 6-8 hours AND I rest the account completely once every two weeks.
But yeah I wouldnāt dare settings like that on datacenter proxies. I would work on account trust rebuilding at this point:
Here would be my process:
- Start resting the PV looping accounts completely.
- Buy a mobile proxy for each looping account
- Move the account over to the new proxy after 2 days of resting
- Start warming up the account again using no likes and maybe starting at 150 follows/unfollows/day capped at 20 each per hour. Night mode minimum 8 hours
- Increase follow/unfollow +10 max/day +2 hr per day up to 30
- Donāt start liking again until 2 weeks of warming up have passed without incident.
- Set an hourly cap on likes. Keep it 5-10/hr and slowly warm up +1/day after that until max 30 likes/hr.
- Buy me some chicken wings if it all works out