I wouldn’t say he is a complete scammer… But since he doesn’t use any automation, growth can sometimes be a little hard if you rely purely on viral growth and on shoutouts… But yeah he definetly charges wayyy too much, he just has the name in the (non mpsocial & BHW) IG world…
lol, He likely paneled fake followers. Anthony Groper did the same thing. Half of Tai Lopez’s following is fake, literal spam accounts. It’s not hard to fake some social proof and put up a facebook ad. Again, if he could actually do what we do, PROPERLY, he would have done so on his own account. Social proof on your personal account is extremely important, if your face is the brand imo.
Agreed! Exactly! You said everything better haha. If he isn’t growing his own I think that’s a huge reg flag. It’s easy to convince people you are legit when you load up on some fake followers. It would take people like us doing this for a living who understand the proper and real engagement for the follower ratio to decide if it is real or not.
And like I said, even if it’s real, it’s way too much.
The amount of comments he gets on his personal account is really fishy lol. Like 200-300 on every post, on a 50k account. I have friends with 150k+ who maybe get 100 on most posts.
Super weird. What’s his handle? I’m going to check it out.
I have a friend fooling everyone who buys all his likes and comments and it’s insane. Whatever service he uses is very convincing. But he only gets 20-40 real likes and maybe a comment or two that is authentic. Then he’ll buy 100 comments and 10000 likes and he is fooling everyone.
I definitely agree with you when you say that social proof on your personal account is extremely important. At the end of the day, if you’re going to be selling your services through your personal brand, your account associated with your personal brand should display your expertise. He might have used panels for sure, but that last time I saw his niche accounts he wasn’t using panels, but powerlikes and engagement groups 24/7.
As far as Anthony Groper and Tai Lopez, etc. go, yes, they 100% use panels.
I mean it does seem fishy, but then again his name is so synonymous with this whole IG growth industry that people may just look up to him and comment, or also leave comments in hopes of using his name / page to get recognized, or possibly even followed by people scraping his page with automation tools. It would take looking into them, which is something I never want to waste my time doing
Same, it’s crazy how people can do that and get away with it. I know a guy who does it and is actually starting to grow, but it took awhile for the growth to kick in. He’s also part of about 2-3 engagement groups (fuelgram being one of them), but his ER is almost at comedic levels.
When you’ve got 5k followers and have 1-3k likes per photo and 300 comments, come on. I’m sure some people can achieve that in reality, but it’s not likely these days. Sometimes I’ll spot a post before he’s gotten the engagement and it’s like 20-30 likes in 20 minutes and then out of nowhere EXPLOSION of both.
Yah he’s a definite no for me.
I think that he just thinks too highly of himself. I’m sure he’s good for whatever he is but that price evaluation is just a joke.
It always confuses me when people are “big” on Instagram by talking about being “big” on instagram. Anyone else? hhahah.
I wonder if he proves proof of clients he is growing?
What I do is have potential clients check out current clients and monitor that they do in fact gain approximately 100-150 followers a day. (I have the amount of slaves per person to gain this. Some take more some take less.) And they are free to look at every follower gained and inspect that they are real. That and a quick video testimonials from those clients that I can pass onto those potential clients just saying that I am the sole person responsible for their current growth.
I wouldn’t expext anyone to trush me unless I am able to prove as much to them.
And I really hope he is doing the Same.
Thank for sharing this, it is something I was wondering about…
So you don’t keep your clients’ usernames private? You tell potential new clients their usernames so they can check them out?
Thank you, I’m loving this forum more and more, learnt more here in 5 days than in bhw in 2 months lol
Lol he thought you’re a scammer
I mean the first time I heard about the prices of this service (I didn’t know anything about the method), I also thought it can’t be true that it is that expensive…
Also, being like-blocked on IG is not enough, I am also like-blocked on MP Social every couple of hours and can’t share any love haha
Well it helps that some of my clients are my friends! All they have to do to help is make a quick selfie video saying “hi! I’m @client and jmarie is solely responsible for growing my account with her organic services”. If they want to contact them themselves that’s usually okay with me but it’s not really necessary. This is usually enough. Monitoring the pages and seeing the daily growth is where the proof is.
Most people are excited to brag about their accounts having real organic followings. Nobody wants to promote the fake follower services they use because it is outting themselves as fakes haha.
But just ask nicely type thing and maybe even offer them a small discount for the month where they make the video for ya!
Easy
Thank you, yeah those testimonials will definetly help once I have clients, right now I am still looking for my first client… Would be nice if you could give me any ideas regarding getting the first client!
Will use the search function aswell and hopefully gather more info regarding this
Anyways, thanks a lot!
I recommend growing your personal account first, if you’re doing mother/slave, so you have something to show potential clients as proof that you’re capable. Otherwise, it can be difficult to land a first client. You need some sort of client portfolio.
I happen to have a lot of friends who have local businesses or are big yoga teachers which made it easy for client growth/automation. And I’m a musician! Some of my managers and I actually work together. They have me do some growth for their musicians which works out nicely. Once I got a client from kijiji (Canadian craigslist) who wanted to buy a computer from me. He asked what I used it for and I said social media growth. Then he asked more about it and him and his friends have been long time clients now!
Mother/slave is a little more complicated. I just have 2 clients right now and another one on a waiting list. This is my busiest time of year with gigs and I run a 200hour two month yoga course so it’s a lot on my plate right now! Haha.
Word of mouth has worked well for me however I would like to branch out even more. Use the resources you have! I run client automation on my personal photographers. Both massive celebrity photographers. I was blessed enough to cross paths with them both. I trade them both for massive photo shoots for myself and my brand as a musician which is worth much more than my automation if you ask me. And they know so many celebs and up and coming artists and actors so my next plan is to let them know I’m taking clients and hopefully I come up in conversation! Might not be necessary for biggger artists but just in general. People love to brag when they have connections so sometimes all you have to do is let people know you’re taking clients and they’ll brag about you the next time they see fit
That is what I am currently doing, growing my main using this method (haven’t fully mastered it yet, that’s why I don’t offer it as a service for now). I was just thinking, wouldn’t it be bad to show your own account with your own face and publicly admit that you are doing this method for yourself?
Just wondering, I don’t have anything against showing my face as the head of the agency who offers this service, but publicly saying you use this on your own acc? I don’t know…
What do you do?
May I maybe also ask other experinced members who use this method, do you use your own face for the service? @thekingwillwhip@dma0245@Babs@JackGagger@jmarie
I hope it is fine that I tagged all of you, lmk if I shouldn’t do this “masstagging” in the future
THIS ^
Work hard first. Really hard. And then go from there. My personal page grows 300-500 followers a day and anyone who is paying attention is usually asking me how I’m doing it and how they can do it.
To give you an idea of how hard you should work, I went through probably 500-1000 account bans before I got it right. And I probably spent about 10000000000 hours phone verifying accounts haha. Really though. It was bad.
Ps. For PV use @biffer or @kraadnc
Thank you a lot for taking the time for these massive replies full of value! Literally bookmarking most of them so I don’t forget haha! Kinda getting pissed that I can’t use the like botton on mpsocial right now lol…
I kinda barely even want to offer regular automation, since so many people are starting to get those IG messages lately about “removing fake likes…” and want to fully focus on m/c method
Ok yeah, especially in the beginning I will try to work together with people I know, every business needs social media nowadays, thank you for this aswell!
Regarding your last reply, yeah I’ve heard about both of them, I just have one question regarding pv’s: Right now I am using smspva, obviously it seems way better to always use the same simcard/account for verification, isn’t that too expensive though, having an individual simcard for each slave account? For main obviously, but for slaves…? At the same time, maybe using real simcards will reduce the amount of verifications one faces… currently getting one every 1-3 days on each account, would you say this number decreases when using real sims (1 sim/acc)
How did you learn about M/S if you don’t mind me asking?
Also, likes generated from your account on automation wont be inauthentic. All automation is doing is automating the process of you going and engaging with people. If you are generating engagement back to your main page, its because people are engaging back. I used to do it honestly all myself before I knew there was any “automation” - I would sit and like 1000s of photos! (This is 8 years ago haha). I find client management and automation gave me the extra cash to spend on learning to grow my M/S projects.
I wouldn’t recommend smspva. Ever. But to each his own. @biffer sims are $2 and last 12 months, and I think in the long run that’s much cheaper than smspva. It looks like you are having a lot of issues with PV and it can be expensive to top up smspva. @kraadnc 's service involves buying sim cards the same way and then you purchase credits to have their team receive all of the codes for you. Maybe consider the root of the PV problem as well? Are you doing 1:1 with your proxies?
As for expenses, I would definitely say just in general that figuring out mother slave will take a bit of money. I’ve purchased sims for 200 accounts and had to throw all of those accounts away in the past. (or had them banned) This was before I was on MP social, and doing this all trial and error myself literally leading myself blind.