Alright MP Social- I’ve been talking to a bunch of you about my success with manual actions. We of course experience Action Blocks, maybe 1 or twice per month briefly.
I have account managers that have up to 5 clients max on each device. We recently started using VPN (about 2 weeks ago) so it changes their IP address every day.
One of my account managers experienced a series of “soft” follow blocks on all of his 5 accs that he’s running from his cell. He was able to follow again and blocked shortly after. Ceased all actions and trying to diagnose issue. He also got a new device last week and re-logged in all 5 client accounts onto it.
I have 2 theories (and I’m not savvy with VPN, IP, etc ) so please correct me or tell me where my logic is wrong.
having VAs working on an acc while the owner is also logged in (i.e. trying to post or browse) and it’s telling IG 2 people are logged in from 2 diff locations and resulting in blocks
2)something to do with VPN or his new device. But no idea what.
It’s possible that either of your theories could be having some sort of effect. In terms of the VPN it will depend on the ‘quality’ of the IP addresses you are getting. Also, if they are DC proxies then I don’t think you want them to be changing UP address every day - particularly if the IPs are from different locations. It’s a bit different if they are mobile proxies.
Again, with the VAs working on the accounts it may depend where the IP addresses of the VAs are vs the IPs of the VPN that the account manager is using.
Just my quick thoughts…others may well have better ideas!
So they don’t use proxy. Just home wifi, open a VPN app on phone and then open IG to work. They only use VPN when working on IG accounts.
When it comes to the conflicting IPs (new VPN ip daily and the same at home ip address)- this could be the problem? As I mentioned, it’s only been 2 days, but it was unusual for all accounts to be blocked at once. Which led me to thinking something about ip adress, from another thread on here.
For your purpose (just rerouting traffic and hiding originating IP), there is no difference between a VPN and proxy (probably why maw101 used the terms interchangeably). The difference between the two is VPN is for the whole machine/device (ie all the traffic from the device is rerouted) and traffic is encrypted whereas a proxy is only for the application you set the proxy on and traffic is not encrypted.
Residential IP - Fine (no matter from which to which country you login and do actions)
4G LTE - Fine (no matter from which to which country you login and do actions)
After the time we came to conclusion we wont use any masking of ips or proxies ever. I advise you start using real connection without Vpns and proxies. It doesnt matter if you are from China and customer is from UK. Just dont be logged in same time (for safety - still havent recieved block because of this).
You can get small LTE mobile data packages (5-10GB/month which is enough for follow,like and comment for 5 profiles… for around 3-8$.)
Stop wasting time with proxies if you arent in automation programs.
the use of VPN is detected by android.
Also you think if IG application is off they don’t know the IP used ? you all wrong. it works in BG.
5 account on a phone ? that is alot, better have 1 … but I know it is not always doable.
Thank you all for your feedback, much appreciate in times like this. That’s why I love this forum: everyone helping one another and no BS (for the most part so far!)
So before we started using VPN, everything was thru just normal wifi and no problems for the most part. Started using VPN so clients stopped asking about location of VAs (outside of US, duh).
So thinking about taking a couple account off it and see if that makes a difference. Will let you guys know in a day!
I dont think that a Vpn is problem simply ig doesnt like 2 phone deviced using acc at the same time this is so easy for them to detect, but the biggest problem are actions. Manual, api, eb whatever their security will recognize, some accs may last longer without block nobody know the reason why maybe some trust score, but eventually all get warning and blocks.
i don’t think “having VAs working on an account while the owner is also logged in results in block” we are also doing Instagram manual growth for our clients from a long time now, accounts which never used any bot before don’t get any block and AC , but we experienced few AC on accounts which were on jarvee before but it was just a one time and we never got any AC again on the same account, so i think the people who get block and AC sometime is because instagram is striking very hard on automation with its algorithm and sometimes it also affects normal user
almost 90-95% of our client’s accounts never got any block and AC, Instagram manual growth is still beast
Thanks Zain, I actually messaged you awhile back. You were posting on here about manual growth, way before me! (and I appreciate hearing from someone else using the manual method- so thank you)
I had experienced these blocks on accounts that were never set up for automation in the past. They still got soft blocks once in awhile. As I mentioned in my update they were lifted about 1.5-2 days after.
It’s usual for us to experience a few temp blocks (usually toward end of month). This time I made a post about it because it was one particular VA that got all of his accounts blocked, which is unusual given our performance the last few months. (we switched to manual in June after blocks).
This lead me to believe that it was the VPN, IG API, multiple logins that caused this prob. Since day 1, we’ve had them work on account while clients also used them. No problems.
So I’ve been using a Henry cooper proxy for awhile now. For the last few weeks I’ve been getting these false action blocks through Jarvee. When I try the same action on my mobile they go through without any issue. I recently started running Jarvee through me home IP address and Jarvee has been working fine so far with no blocks. I’m not sure if the blocks through the proxy are because they are constantly changing ip addresses. Just and idea.
