I’m wondering if it might be good to run like 200/300 likes a day from blocked accounts - this way the days count as activity as opposed to not…
I agree with those who said the 6000/30 rule is full of assumptions but my data also points in that direction.
The follow block is still on all your accounts?
Let’s leave aside the human like actions and the number of follows a day, etc. This last wave of penalties from Instagram seems way more random. For me it’s been all over the map… no matter the IP, no matter the number of actions, no matter the randomness. So I am thinking it’s bot detection.
It makes sense that the bots (liked Jarvee) are not able to completely emulate the communication from the Instagram mobile app. My understanding is there is some encrypted communication between Instagram app and server that Jarvee (or any bot) would not be able to emulate. Does anyone know this with certainty?
In that case, no matter all other factors (IP, randomness of actions, etc.), Instagram knows right away whether an account is connected to a 3rd party app the moment you log in.
By that logic Instagram knows every account botting and has just been tolerating bots because it helps their business.
There is nothing inherently wrong with F/UF (within reason). Even Instagram suggests that as the best way to grow an account. So I am thinking of using the mobile app on a real mobile phone and something like Zenndroid to push the actual buttons of the IG app. Then connect Zenndroid to a bot. Of course, that is only if my assumption about bot detection is accurate and the only way around it is to use the mobile app on a mobile phone.
Maybe it’s more cost effective than M/S. I am experimenting with M/S method but I realize I would have to raise my prices way up to account for the extra labor.
Many people doing f/u manually have been follow blocked…so it’s not related to botting
I have ~10 accounts doing 15k follow / month that are not blocked. I’m not sure about 6000/30 theory tbh
how do you count number of actions in the last 30 days?
Did not test it on recently follow block accounts, but all my accounts on likes are just fine. Plus, I have had a similar follow block on one account about two-three weeksago, but like working on it perfectly. Tried to use follow, but it was blocked after 700 follows on first day - thats my bad I think))
This almost seem to be a service problem. 100% Kind of like the music industry before spotify, torrents before Netflix, and pirating games before steam.
Organic reach is absolutely abysmal, paid ads are not much better. If Facebook / Instagram truly want to deal a fatal blow to the bots, they need to make ads more affordable, and reach significantly more people than what they do now.
Wow, that’s a great read!
“While Instagram is in a position to identify all AAS customer accounts, blocking these accounts is not a desirable outcome since Instagram users still use them to initiate legitimate actions that should not be blocked (even while they are also enrolled in an AAS).”
It seems to point that they don’t detect the bots because of some leaked information… their AI is just so good at detecting activity it can even recognize what users are using which bots…
Well, if you just open the paper @kripke posted, you can clearly see which of the automation tools are affected. They tested against 5 of the popular ones. Uncertain why Jarvee is not among them, since it’s one of the biggest.
You talk about bots, 6000 shares a month and various cocks, but did you realize that they also blocked accounts that never used bots?
So the actions we do on Jarvee do not count for anything about instagram blocking
Synchronous Block. When blocking AAS actions, the actions
are not successful and do not reach users of Instagram. Such a
countermeasure directly undermines the perceived value of using
an AAS. At the same time, though, the transparent aspect of the
synchronous response serves as an oracle of what actions Instagram
can detect as abusive. The AAS can use this oracle to easily test
and possibly adjust their strategy for delivering their actions to
accommodate or sidestep the countermeasure within a short period
of time
And yet they seem to be using exactly this countermeasure. So it seems like they are confident about the fact, that it will be not that easy to sidestep within a reasonable amount of time. This paper is really interesting and contains a lot of information.
The impression I am getting from Jarvee is that they think the problem is completely down to IG and that it could potentially be a bug or maybe new limits…
So not sure Jarvee have to share a solution or do a major update because it isn’t todo with their software… just the impression they’re giving me… What do other people think?
Yes but it could be related to action limits… rather than directly being about whether the actions were automated or not!
We’ve known this since minute one. It’s completely unrelated to Jarvee itself. People on other softwares are seeing the blocks as well.
I’ve gotten follow blocked as well with 9k for the month. My account is very old(4+ years) and has been f/uf for over 2 years. The biggest thing I noticed is that the UI on my account has reverted to an older hi compared to the one I was using a few days ago on 96.1 even though I just updated to 97. Not saying the beta version is the issue but it happened at about the same time for me
Another thing to clarify is that I have not been shadowbanned or had an engagement drop at all. My last two posts got 50%+ hashtag impressions and a regular amount of likes
I’m going through my 100 accounts and I see a newer account that got blocked only after crossing the 200 a day. So maybe that is a secondary aspect.
6000 AND no more than 200 a day.
Daily limit in place too possibly. Can anyone clarify this?
I got a block on one account that started 7 days ago, until today it reaches 3900 followings doing about 500 followings per day, today was blocked in the 115 following… not sure if that 6K following theory is true…