Very good points d.
This right here is the ULTIMATE reason why we should have level 1 public and level 2 private…
Could not agree more!
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To be honest I completely agree to the above, not just what I quoted but everything they said.
This is how I see it( yes, most was already said):
- this is not earth shattering information, everybody does it , follow/unfollow/like and the likes. If they cared they could definitely stop all of it easily
- this community isn’t that well known and even if it were the top in the world, there are many others, all talking about the same exact methods, take BHW for example, they’ve discussed it all, granted not a nicely as here
- believe it or not our community and users aren’t that bad, spamming with thousands of accounts like crazy, most have just a few accounts and are doing whitehat stuff. I don’t think all of us together make even a dent in their whole user database. There are other really bad bots and communities out there ( i mean spam wise), botnets doings stuff on hundreds of thousand of accounts that really can influence how their platform works, that’s what they are mostly concentrating on.
- if they really wanted it they could get in even if it was private, I think they can afford $10 to get in :). Also they could probably get in any private thing with a little determination…
Now here’s how I envision this forum and why I wouldn’t want to make it private:
- I didn’t create it as a MP support forum, we do that via email like you all know, I wanted it to be a social media discussion place. All social media and for everybody, regardless if they have or don’t have MP. We are still small, there are a lot of people out there that do social media. If we could get all to interact in one place great ideas can be born.
- It’s true, there are a lot of beginners, but they will learn in the end and if they become contributors and share what they learned and their experiences you never know what we might find out as well, after all there isn’t 1 person that knows it all.
- I am sure there are many people out there that could contribute to our talk here and that know how things work and could help a lot that are using other tools, private tools or even doing it manually or with the use of VAs. I really don’t see a reason why we should turn them away and only make this private and for MP users alone.
- the level 2 section is true, it’s not that hard to reach if you stick around a little, but I think if someone sticks around enough to reach it, even if he’s a beginner and not very helpful at the time being he might have the drive to go through all the training and prove to be a valuable member going forward. Yes, some might never help with anything, just lurk, but I don’t see why we should spend too much time on those, it’s simply how it is everywhere.
- the level 3 section on the other hand is a lot harder to get to, and unlike lvl2, if you’re not constantly engaging you can be demoted to lvl2 again and lose access. I think it should suffice for all extreme and super secret methods . If we make it paid IG will have money for that, if you need to way 3 months to get in on the other hand they might not be that patient.
Ultimately, I think the more people we attract the higher chances of getting valuable members are. If you take a look in the introduction section you will see that we already have a lot of diverse people joining, from game creators, to designers, to electricians, musicians and a lot more. Each with his/her knowledge and talents that can chime in when needed.
And yes, this will help MP as well as we might get some more users too.
Oh, and before I forget, around 95% of the users here tried or are using MP, the forum is not that big so it doesn’t get that many outside signups, just a couple each day. Most don’t have the badge because they haven’t read that it’s there or don’t know how to use it…
Wow this was long, hope I was coherent enough 
tl/dr I don’t think Ig would care about us so I really don’t want to turn this into a private forum, I’d rather have a diversity of people that can share their knowledge and help each other.
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I’d also like to address the issues raised by @MojoJojo so here it goes
Yes they are, but they are not new, they are talked about in other places as well, granted not with the same level of detail, but for Ig it’s the same, if they want to do something agains one of this tactics they can without knowing exactly how we do it.
If you say ok, but people will use them and abuse them in my experience it’s like this
- 80% of the people that read them won’t use them, it happens with everything online, they buy books, they read new methods think they are interesting but never try them
- 15% will try, fail fast for different reasons and give up
- 5% will probably try and make them work and not necessarily abuse them, if they do, they’re a small fish in a extremely bug pond and others are probably doing the same thing without reading it here…
that information from your user cards is not accessible from outside, only to actual members, that’s how I set it up from the start :
the real spammers have private tools they use to do serious stuff, i really don’t think this is the case here, most they can do is they get their accounts closed if they spam too much.
for this one I wrote a lot in my above answer. I don’t want this to be only about MP users, anyone can share very good information regardless if they do it manually, with a private bot or with MP.
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Thank you for taking the time to address all of these “concerns”. I personally don’t agree with some of the logic, but I respect the diversity of opinions.
I agree with making the forum private. Even if it helps our methods last that much more longer it would be beneficial
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This is a great debate. Lots of good points from both sides. Thanks @Johnny for chiming in, and addressing many concerns. I have read through this entire topic and my thoughts have made a slight change.
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I now think that the level 1 section should remain public.
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I do think that level 2 should be harder to acheive since users can easily manipulate the system to reach level 2.
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Level 3 should be more difficult to acheive, and should have extra levels of verification.
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When a user is eligible for level 3, the level 3 community should vote anonymously whether or not to approve that user. Since some level 3 users, may have received a PM or read something from the eligible user which raised a red flag of some kind.
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User must have an active MP licence for X amount of months
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And or some other measures.
You can simply choose not to respond to these users. You can check user badge to see if it says “Mass Planner User” if it does not, you can ignore them. I have started to give those without the badge less attention or at least a lower priority.
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My one and only concern with not making certain strategies and methods private (limited to Level 2 or 3 which as Brandon suggests should probably have a higher bar at this point) is that they (IG employees, FB, etc) could then learn these techniques and severely impact any ability we have to utilize them.
For instance, changing follower limits per hour could be done regardless of what any automation does, so posting your settings isn’t some secret process, however posting publicly who you target, how often you target, why and when, along with the way you post your CPA links, how you mask them, is not smart to leave in the open.
Anything else seems pretty safe to discuss, in terms of MP settings, because ultimately a person could be doing them without automation, in theory maybe not in practice… I don’t have time to follow 800 people by finger.
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My opinion ( you can judge, but I think some will understand )
If the forum is private then will then it will attract more attention over Mass Planner as being some tool at doing secret stuff that is magical besides other, and in some social media heads that can be a bad thing.
Private also means that other users that do not use MP will not join, and they can bring :
- Other methods for social media that are done manual or with other tools
- Contribution to the forum to keep it alive ( I don’t think you like a forum that has 1 post / hour )
- Help to other members
- Questions *
*Questions are very good because if they ask them you can help them.If you don’t know the answer you research it.Then its a win-win scenario.
Other point in the idea of putting the forum on private.
This forum is based on Mass Planner, and almost all the members use it so it does promotion.
If the forum is on private then we get to the point that was mentioned above, its a 50-50% that it will get the same sales and promotion overview.
This forum also supports the members, but it supports the Mass Planner team to keep it alive.
This is my own opinion, don’t trow rocks!
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What will happen if the forum goes private ? The people who don’t use MP cannot read any thread in it ? And How can we stay in Private forum ? What is the requirements for that ? Can level 1 also be the part of The private forum ?
Think keeping lvl2 private is enough, it is not a cake walk to get to lvl2 just my 2 cents 
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I Agree!
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This is a 2 year old thread… But yeah I think level 2 is enough to keep the best shares private.
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I understand what you try to say, and I agree that the info here has a huge value, but for some of us (including myself) if it wasn’t for google maybe we would have never found this great forum.
I joined today, i wouldn’t spend time registering and engaging with other if it was a private forum and there is no valuable information.
i guess there are already hidden threads which are accessible to level 2 members?
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Yes, exactly. Here you can read something about the levels:
If you look at it this way, nothing in life is free. However, there’s a lot of valuable information here that is free. The catch is that in order to get this free stuff, you have to pay it forward by being an active member, contributing your own insights, and making the community better for those who come after you.
Just expecting information to be given to everybody all the time for nothing is not how things tend to work these days, in general, and if you do want everything dropped (ie. a masterclass, guru course, whatever you want to call it) you have to pay for it.
So really, you get all of that for free, and the cost is your own contribution and whatever value you bring, everybody has something to share, big or small.
Edit: Yeah, the privacy thing is to prevent people from signing up, copying and pasting all of our collective work on other forums and then never signing in again. It helps maintain quality, increase value, and prevents theft/piracy in a sense.
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You are one of the leechers, aren’t you?
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