Sites like Social Upgrade & Social Steeze are now closed

Nope. Virginia, not Vienna. I was able to look up their corporation and then found other businesses they owned all which were like and follow farms. This does seem like a lot of services are going down. I’m actually quite alarmed for the first time.

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Yeah, I can only agree. They seem to take a way tougher stance.

Question is: What can they do? Just close your website, keep all current clients, pick a new name & continue what you were doing. Worst case you legally have to register a new business.

If you’re outside the US not sure they can even do anything… Or am I missing something here?

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Its a difficult question they could still sue you in the country you reside for example germany has a anti-hacking law which could be applied. Also we agreed to the Terms of Service of Facebook with our own accounts so they can sue you over breach of contract. Im not a lawyer but it would be interesting to hear the perspective of one.

Don’t think that an anti-hacking law applies to automation is social media.

Hm, not necessarily. Our clients agreed, not us.

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Yeah, its complicated…

I was just repeating the arguments Facebook made in the lawsuit against socialenvy the documents are available on the internet here:

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I agree with @grummel1 but what I would be more interested in is: What about the clients?
Can they sue you if their account gets deactivited while they are using your service?
Of course you can write it in your TOS but are there already cases? Could not find anything concerning that.

I guess they can - however I wouldnt worry too much about that Instagram nearly all the times reactivates those accounts in a matter of days.

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to be honest thats something I worry about a lot. Because it’s a lot of money companys put in their Ig with adds and branded content and what they pay me. And of course they will try to go for me even if I state from beginning this might happen.

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Noone would bother suing over their Instagram account. On top of that, client accounts never get disabled if you use mobile proxies. And if they do, they will always be reactivated within 1-2 days. Don’t worry about it is my advice :slight_smile:

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These companies were using Facebook and IG ads to promote their services and TechCrunch was keeping track. Then TC reported it to FB and supposedly FB took action after that.

Online blogs keep alerting them about our kinds of services. Last year, a mole from BuzzFeed got into all the facebook groups that ran like/comment engagement pods and reported it to Facebook. Soon after that, all those groups got shut down.

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thx for the answer. nice to hear that from a pro

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Good.

Now let’s get to work and provide quality! :slight_smile:

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Yeah, I think so - I remember when MP got shut down, support basically said if you had the program on your comp, it would still work fine - seems like they can only close the marketing website on trademark claims (atleast that’s what happened with Instagress)

Probably depends on how good you hide your identity. And how well you do it. No idea how these guys got their real names involved… But FB clearly noticed that they continued selling this under different company names.

Seems like it was worth it though :wink:

Another note: This whole pursuit is clearly mainly about them selling fake likes, not f/uf services.

One thing to keep in mind is while Instagram management is allowed, automation of that management is not. That’s why you always need to watch what you say publicly…especially on your website(s).

Hell I don’t even tell my clients how I manage things. I always refer to it as proprietary processes :smiley: I do explain what I do, just not how it is done

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Totally, that’s what we’ve been hearing from Jarvee support and the like. I guess the question is ‘why’? Who are fake followers and fake likes hurting? Who do SMM panels hurt?

I can understand from the FB end that there are tens of thousands of fake accounts being created and used on the platform to deliver these fake likes/follows, and that can be troublesome.

I can understand on the ‘true’ influencer end that the space is being highly commoditized with increased competition with ‘fake’ influencers who use these services to inflate their accounts.

But that’s all I see.

The last question is, if the fake follower/like is the main focus here, why are F/UF accounts getting that message regarding changing their password?

I don’t even have a website :wink:

Money people spend for ig is limited. if they can’t spend it on likepanels or F/UF services they would maybe spend it on ads.

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