NEW ISSUE: Inauthentic activity

I agree with that - I read that they run hundreds of tests and most we don’t see or hear about

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I’m 99,9999% that they won’t do it. They would kill the platform.

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I have to agree - there’s the huge dopamine hit of the instant numbers and they actually grow their business daily by having those. They will probably just try to taper any inauthentic activity rather than use the hammer

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I believe that IG will soften the effectiveness of Engagement pods. They should be able to track a user to see how often they like the same people’s posts and lessen their power in their algorithm I’d be shocked if they don’t implement if they haven’t yet.

They already do it. Engagement groups/pods don’t really work anymore. IG collects all kind of data so they know where your motivation comes from to interact with a post (organic by scrolling the feed vs. engagement group).

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Actually, the idea of hiding likes from the public has been getting a massive amount of positive feedback. And the counter making people addicted, is precisely why they’re doing it. (note: you’ll still be able to see your likes, just not the public)

Bots are not the primary reason for this being tested. Although it would deal a significant blow to them at the same time.

Social media has caused a massive uptick in depression. And it’s pretty much destroying people’s lives socially, and professionally. For example, many modeling agencies out there just flat out will not hire you unless your photos get above a certain number of likes. Obviously the could still ask to see your private like counter. But that’s just one example from a pool of dozens.

It’s going to be interesting to see how this is handled, because as you said another platform would just come along to feed that addiction. But as a service to the public, morally it’s the right thing to do.

But we all know, Facebook and Instagram aren’t exactly notorious for doing something for the greater good of people, above the dollar.

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I definitely don’t disagree but as you already said Facebook/Instagram don’t care what’s “good” for the society so I don’t expect such a drastic change to happen anytime soon.

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I’m with Damian. They’re 100% about making money for quarterly earnings.

They clearly are trying to tow the line of improving the platform in many ways without stifling growth. They are going to have to do lots of small maneuvers. I could see some smaller modifications. Maybe they don’t show it as easily but I don’t think that the Dopamine numbers (followers, likes) will disappear.

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I don’t understand the discussion of this being madness based on likes giving dopamine. You’ll still be able to see likes yourself, so why discuss how not being able to see likes being a huge problem, when that’s not what they’re proposing? Not letting followers see likes is vastly different than not being able to see them yourself.

Put yourself in the shoes of a teenage girl. You take a photo you think is cute (might delete later) and only get 75 likes on the photo. Meanwhile, Sarah and Rebecca talk smack saying you look hideous and laugh at you for not getting near 600 likes, which is the arbitrary golden standard of engagement for being accepted.

Now sure, those likes get hidden and while you might be able to see them, it’s no longer so much a burden to post, and you will likely now share more content without anxiety.

Now, apply a similar scenario to artiest, designers, musicians, photographers etc, with your coworkers, peers, family, etc.

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@TommyShelby It would be best to keep the conversation in each thread relevant.

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Getting back on topic, does anyone have any sort of updates since theses messages to users went out? The only account that got hit with one on my end was an account created 9 years ago, never bought likes or follows, home IP, ultra low f/u like settings. Which is, kinda of baffling.

I’ll write a guide for that

Anyone getting this message today? The wording is slightly different than before…

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For me the “may” is totally revelant, for me it is not a direct accusation, maybe you did, maybe you didnt, imo.

For the moment i dont give a shit a about this text, i have only lost 1 clients because of this and i didnt like her :rofl:

Got this for one client account yesterday right after bouncing back from a PV

Yes I do!!! Should I change password or not? Or should I be worried about shadowbanned?

I actually stopped the service to use follow/unfollow a month ago…

Have you just been doing f/u? Or has that account ever bought powerlikes, or followers? A lot of bot software support seems to be trying to make it abundantly clear that this is simply for just buying likes and followers.

But now I’m starting to wonder. How difficult would it be to create an algorithm to look at an account that says “oh look, this account has followed 80,000 accounts, and unfollowed 90,000 accounts in the past year.” I mean surely there’s a way to do that no? And that would certainly be an enormous red flag hence the use of the words “may have”

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Did u do anything different afterwards?

i had a client get this message (or a similar one, not exactly sure) that has never bought likes or followers, only f/u through Jarvee with conservative settings. I know this because I grew their account from nothing to around 4k. Started getting API blocks around the same time message was received, started following via embedded browser which eventually resulted in proper follow blocks after attempting one follow via embedded browser. Let the account rest for a couple days and was able to follow via API again for one day, then API block came back the very next day. At the moment cant figure out how to get past this issue